But a lot of businesses out there don't see the return on investment, they look at it as a liability, and until they can understand that proactive security actually returns, gives them a return on investment, it's still a hard sell for people.

He was enrolled at Los Angeles Pierce College and USC. He was released on January 21 2000. After a friendly bus driver told him where he could buy his own ticket punch he could ride any bus in the greater LA area using unused transfer slips he found in the trash.

Kevin David Mitnick (born on August 6 1963) is an American computer security consultant author convicted criminal and hacker. In the late 20th century he was convicted of various computer and communications-related crimes.