The big turning point, really, was the Beatles' influence on American folk music, and then Roger took it to the next step, and then along came the Lovin' Spoonful and everybody else.

They cut their first and only album as Barry & Barry called "Here And Now" which contained songs such as "Gold Wedding Ring" "Land Of Odin" the single "Another Man" "Summer's Over" "You Know My Name" "Bull 'Gine Run" and "Far Side Of The Hill". "Eve of Destruction" sold over one million copies and was awarded a gold disc. At The Troubadour they both joined The New Christy Minstrels a large folk group performing there.